Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was cut off during a podcast interview while explaining the “three M’s” she said Kamala Harris needs in order to win the 2024 presidential election.
Pelosi was appearing on Global’s The News Agents podcast, which is hosted by journalists Emily Maitlis, Jon Sopel and Lewis Goodall, when the incident occurred.
During her 37 years in Congress, Pelosi served as speaker of the House twice, between 2007 and 2011 and again between 2019 and 2023. She also led the House Democratic Caucus from 2003 to 2023, when she was replaced by Hakeem Jeffries.
On the podcast, Pelosi was asked, “How does Kamala Harris win? Have you got what you need?” to which she replied: “We have the three M’s.”
“See, I’m a former party chair—a long time ago, see, that’s how I was asked to run for Congress because I was the party chair in California. The three M’s—you must mobilize to own the ground. You must get out all of your vote.
“Everything else is a conversation whether it’s social media, whether it’s TV, whether it’s mail, it’s all a conversation unless you turn out that vote of the people who are your supporters, who you have persuaded. You own…”
At this point, the line with Pelosi suddenly went dead, after which one of the hosts said: “As was crushingly inevitable there, we were always going to never hear the second or third of the M’s.”
Newsweek reached out to Pelosi’s Washington, D.C., office and Global for comment via email.
Pelosi did list “the three M’s” she said were necessary for victory during one of her weekly press conferences in April 2018. During this discussion, she listed them as “message, mobilization, money.”
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During her Global interview, Pelosi was damning of former President Donald Trump, the Republican nominee, describing him as “beyond the pale of anything.”
“This is not like we’re running against Mitt Romney or George Bush, father or son. They’re patriots. We have disagreements on the role of government…and that’s an appropriate disagreement to have,” she said.
Pelosi also responded to comments from former British Prime Ministers Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. The former suggested that a Trump win in November would be good for Ukraine, while the latter claimed the world was “safer when Trump was in charge.”
The California Democrat said: “For them to say the world is safer under Trump, who didn’t even know what NATO was, who wants to weaken NATO, who does not want to honor the mutual defense provisions of NATO. It’s annoying to hear people of some level of sophistication on public policy to use the term.”
Vice President Harris became the Democrats’ presumptive presidential candidate in late July, shortly after President Joe Biden announced he wouldn’t be running for a second term and offered her his endorsement. In the following weeks, Harris outperformed Trump in a string of more than 12 polls and saw her approval rating surge.
In an interview with CBS broadcast on August 4, Pelosi said Trump had “made a mistake” by picking Ohio Senator JD Vance as his 2024 running mate.
Earlier this month, Pelosi published her book The Art of Power, My Story as America’s First Woman Speaker of the House, in which she revealed her fear of being killed in the January 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol when the building was stormed by hundreds of Trump supporters trying to stop Biden’s election win from being certified.
